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Post by KindSoul類魂 on Jun 2, 2011 13:04:13 GMT -5
Uh.. Apparently there is an intense discussion going on here... c'mon, no need to fight because of that.. o.o
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Ninjaoety
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Post by Ninjaoety on Jun 2, 2011 13:05:06 GMT -5
Some people forget this is just a personal opinion
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Post by Link on Jun 2, 2011 13:32:59 GMT -5
of course this is just a personal opinion and i respect that, but objectively gary is the better trainer well ninja, lets destroy that list of yours... - Gary was beaten by Ash, so Ash surpassed Gary (FACT) gary: 2 wins ash: 1 win -> 1:0 gary - Gary was a showoff. (FACT) has got nothing to do with the question... -> 1:0 gary - Ash has better pokemon. really? nidoking, golem, nidoqueen, blastoise, scizor, skarmory, alakazam, pinsir, magmar, umbreon, electivire, arcanine vs pikachu, bulbasaur, kingler, snorlax, charizard, tauros, squirtle, pidgeot, primeape...yeah, sure xD sry but gary got much better pokemon and hes got much more of them... -> 2:0 gary - Gary's style of training was to capture many Pokémon and to use the strongest, as a stark contrast to Ash who focused on developing a bond with his Pokémon. (FACT) do u try to bond with ur pokemon in ptd or do u try to have the strongest ones? cut that anime stuff out already...bonding with them...cmooon -.- -> 2:0 gary - Gary isnt a trainer anymore, he is a researcher now. (FACT) true point, but he WAS a trainer - and he was the better one -> 2:0 gary - Gary had advantages (like a car) and Gary's grandfather is Prof.Oak. (FACT) but gary had no real companions and gary didnt profit from oak being his grandfather...dont see why he had an advantage as TRAINER from having a car... -> 2:0 gary - Ash has a mom. (FACT) gary has a mom as well, but we dont see her...anyways, what kind of a stupid argument is that? xD nothing to add
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Post by Ninjaoety on Jun 2, 2011 13:46:31 GMT -5
You forget its ALSO about the better person
Woosh, everything you said is destroyed
And Link, its about the whole TV series not just the kanto region
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Post by Link on Jun 2, 2011 13:51:34 GMT -5
yeah, pokemon is about being the better person...thats how u beat the game, of course as said, i brought enough arguments and didnt see anything that really countered them so im not gonna respond anymore, except i see something thats worth another reply i know that it is about the whole series, but i stopped watching after the silver conference (thats also where the games started to become worse :/ ) and i dont have any idea whats happening right now in the anime
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Post by Ninjaoety on Jun 2, 2011 13:58:28 GMT -5
THE TOPIC IS ABOUT THE BETTER TRAINER AND BETTER PERSON - Gary was a showoff. (FACT) has got nothing to do with the question... Its also about the better person Ash > Gary - Ash has better pokemon. really? nidoking, golem, nidoqueen, blastoise, scizor, skarmory, alakazam, pinsir, magmar, umbreon, electivire, arcanine vs pikachu, bulbasaur, kingler, snorlax, charizard, tauros, squirtle, pidgeot, primeape...yeah, sure xD sry but gary got much better pokemon and hes got much more of them... Ash also has: Muk, 30 tauros, heracross, noctowl, totodile, bayleef, torkoal, glalie, corpish, swellow, donphan, sceptile, quilava, gible, buizel, staraptor, infernape, gliscor, torterra, oshawott, tepig, snivy, tranquill, scraggy, swadloon, palpitoad and roggenrola Ash > Gary - Gary's style of training was to capture many Pokémon and to use the strongest, as a stark contrast to Ash who focused on developing a bond with his Pokémon. (FACT) do u try to bond with ur pokemon in ptd or do u try to have the strongest ones? cut that anime stuff out already...bonding with them...cmooon -.- Its about the better person Ash > Gary - Gary isnt a trainer anymore, he is a researcher now. (FACT) true point, but he WAS a trainer - and he was the better one He WAS better, but Ash is better now (This is an opinion) Ash > Gary - Gary had advantages (like a car) and Gary's grandfather is Prof.Oak. (FACT) but gary had no real companions and gary didnt profit from oak being his grandfather...dont see why he had an advantage as TRAINER from having a car... You can travel alot faster, thus making it easier - Ash has a mom. (FACT) gary has a mom as well, but we dont see her...anyways, what kind of a stupid argument is that? xD Ash has a HOT mom Ash > Gary Woosh, everything you said is destroyed again. You say my arguments are stupid, but you cant counter those, the only thing you can counter is the opinion not the facts
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Post by Link on Jun 2, 2011 14:18:51 GMT -5
seriously, i hope u know that this was just hilarious...bad arguments overall (all i see is "its about the better person")...and especially "Ash has a HOT mom " makes me hope that u just kid, otherwise it would be alarming...oO i didnt counter your facts, as they are true, they just dont have anything to do with the question who is the better trainer (stay away with that person stuff -.-)...and ashs pokemon being better is just wrong and we know that
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Post by sonic4081 on Jun 2, 2011 14:37:21 GMT -5
Poll Question: Who is the better trainer AND(not or) all around better person? Ash or Gary? Gary isnt a trainer anymore, so he cant win this poll You just got beaten, me and Budgetspaner win Hey, me too. I was defending Ash's honor.
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Post by ajshoes9789 on Jun 2, 2011 14:39:08 GMT -5
seriously, i hope u know that this was just hilarious...bad arguments overall (all i see is "its about the better person")...and especially "Ash has a HOT mom " makes me hope that u just kid, otherwise it would be alarming...oO i didnt counter your facts, as they are true, they just dont have anything to do with the question who is the better trainer (stay away with that person stuff -.-)...and ashs pokemon being better is just wrong and we know that agreed
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Post by Jonaton's Mewgia on Jun 2, 2011 15:30:56 GMT -5
well.... gary has 10 badges in a place where there are just 8.... so i guess he wins
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Post by bender on Jun 2, 2011 15:35:11 GMT -5
well.... gary has 10 badges in a place where there are just 8.... so i guess he wins thank you sir
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Post by Ninjaoety on Jun 2, 2011 15:36:13 GMT -5
Sorry Sonic (and other Ash voters)
But Link, (its a joke, we are just being too serious about this subject) You are only thinking this is about the better trainer, but its ALSO about the better person, so you have to pick one based upon both better trainer AND better person. (Again, not only based upon better trainer)
Gary has like 18 badges, Ash like 46 up till now
And ash's pokemon (after the Johto Saga, in TV series) are a lot better then the ones before, they are getting better each generation (in my opinion) And I think its because we cant see progress made by Gary in the TV series (only by Ash), it looks like he is getting weaker cause of all the better progress made by Ash
So now things are clear, I hope we dont react at eachothers OPINION (And no offense to all Gary voters )
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Post by Link on Jun 2, 2011 15:46:08 GMT -5
are we being too serious? for me its kinda funny, no serious stuff ^^ we r discussing it, with our opinions not being changeable actually im just giving arguments why gary is by far the better trainer ;D of course ash is the better person, he is the main character and that series is mainly for 10 year olds after all, who dont wanna see a bad-ass and show-off being the main hero of the series ;D well u gotta consider...ash gets new pokemon and stuff but its always the same...the "first bird" in its final evolution (pidgeot, noctowl, swellow, starapter), the starters in their unevolved forms (at least many starters with only charizard, sceptile evolving to their final forms) and some other rather regular pokes...did u ever see ash get some rare or hard-to-get ones like the nidos/golem/umbreon/arcanine/scizor/alakazam/kindra? nope... ash gets more and more pokemon but he doesnt catch enough of them and doesnt train and evolve them enough and thats what pokemon is about after all one more thing: jons comment for the win! xDD epic dude ^^
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Post by ajshoes9789 on Jun 2, 2011 15:48:30 GMT -5
ASH: omg i just caught an amazing pokemon, should i release it or give it to prof oak? Edit: and yes I know he doesnt give it to Oak he just stores it there.
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Post by sonic4081 on Jun 2, 2011 15:52:48 GMT -5
Neither win. It is CHuck Norris who is the true winner.
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